{"id":925,"date":"2026-09-12T16:07:22","date_gmt":"2026-09-12T16:07:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stories.findgod.help\/?p=925"},"modified":"2026-09-12T16:07:30","modified_gmt":"2026-09-12T16:07:30","slug":"cin-fisiltisi-ve-egitim-odasi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stories.findgod.help\/tr\/chinese-whispers-and-the-training-room\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00c7in F\u0131s\u0131lt\u0131s\u0131 ve E\u011fitim Odas\u0131"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">24 May\u0131s 2024<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bu r\u00fcyadan \u00f6nce kilise tarihiyle ilgili bir seminere kat\u0131l\u0131p kat\u0131lmamay\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyordum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>R\u00fcya<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">R\u00fcyamda i\u015f ilanlar\u0131na bak\u0131yordum ve LinkedIn&#039;de bir g\u00f6nderi g\u00f6rd\u00fcm. Hintlilerin \u00c7in f\u0131s\u0131lt\u0131s\u0131 dans\u0131 yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6steriyordu. M\u00fc\u015fteri, Bharatanatyam dans\u0131 yapan bir kad\u0131nd\u0131. Dans kusursuz, m\u00fckemmel koreografili ve yetenekliydi. Bu, y\u00f6neticiye gitti. Y\u00f6netici, kad\u0131n kadar iyi dans edemedi. Sonra geli\u015ftiriciye gitti. Geli\u015ftirici, y\u00f6neticiden daha k\u00f6t\u00fc dans etti. Son dans ise beceriksiz ve \u00e7irkindi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u0130nsanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n \u015fu anda \u0130ncil&#039;i bu \u015fekilde ele ald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve bunu yeniden tesis etmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 s\u00f6yledim. Kilise tarihini insanlara anlatman\u0131n haval\u0131 bir yolu olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">R\u00fcyan\u0131n ikinci b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcnde, canavar \u00f6ld\u00fcrme departman\u0131nda, bir ekipteydim. Hayvanlar\u0131 ve canavarlar\u0131 \u00f6ld\u00fcrmek veya yakalamak i\u00e7in bir e\u011fitim rutinindeydik. E\u011fitim i\u00e7in kafes benzeri bir odaya girmek \u00fczere bir t\u00fcr kap\u0131 a\u00e7t\u0131k. Is\u0131r\u0131lmamak i\u00e7in i\u00e7eri girmeden \u00f6nce yan cama yaslanmak zorundayd\u0131m. Ba\u015fka bir stajyer de beni takip etti. Sonunda bir canavar\u0131 serbest b\u0131rakt\u0131k. Yarat\u0131\u011f\u0131 ezmek zorunda kald\u0131m. E\u011fitimde feci \u015fekilde ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131z olduk. Departman \u015fefimiz de \u00f6yle. O kadar k\u00f6t\u00fcyd\u00fck ki, neredeyse \u00f6yleymi\u015fiz gibi bir espri yapt\u0131m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ard\u0131ndan Avrupa taraf\u0131ndan bir telefon ald\u0131m ve e-postay\u0131 d\u00fczeltmek i\u00e7in yard\u0131m istediler. Ben de yerel sorunlarla ilgilenmemiz gerekti\u011fini s\u00f6yledim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">K\u00f6pe\u011fimin havlamas\u0131yla uyand\u0131m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Seminere gitmeye karar verdim. Londra&#039;ya arabayla iki saat s\u00fcr\u00fcyor. \u0130ngiltere&#039;deyiz.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">R\u00fcyan\u0131n ilk b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc \u2014 kilise tarihi<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">R\u00fcyan\u0131n ilk k\u0131sm\u0131 kilise tarihidir. \u0130ncil ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7ta, t\u0131pk\u0131 Bharatanatyam gibi, kusursuz, koreografik ve ustaca bir \u015fekilde verildi. Sonra elden ele, nesilden nesile ge\u00e7ti. Her kopya bir \u00f6ncekinden daha k\u00f6t\u00fcyd\u00fc. Y\u00f6netici zaten kad\u0131ndan daha a\u015fa\u011f\u0131yd\u0131. Geli\u015ftirici y\u00f6neticiden daha k\u00f6t\u00fcyd\u00fc. Sonunda dans beceriksiz ve \u00e7irkin bir hal ald\u0131. Bu, sulanmad\u0131r. Gelen \u015fey, bir zamanlar verilen inan\u00e7 de\u011fildi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cTanr\u0131\u2019n\u0131n emrini b\u0131rak\u0131p insan gelene\u011fine ba\u011fl\u0131 kal\u0131yorsunuz.\u201d<br>(Markos 7:8 ESV)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSizi Mesih\u2019in l\u00fctfuyla \u00e7a\u011f\u0131ran\u0131 bu kadar \u00e7abuk terk edip ba\u015fka bir m\u00fcjdeye y\u00f6nelmenize hayret ediyorum \u2014ba\u015fka bir m\u00fcjde yok, ama sizi rahats\u0131z eden ve Mesih\u2019in m\u00fcjdesini \u00e7arp\u0131tmak isteyenler var.\u201d<br>(Galatyal\u0131lar 1:6-7 ESV)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c\u015eimdi size, karde\u015flerim, vaaz etti\u011fim, kabul etti\u011finiz, \u00fczerinde durdu\u011funuz ve size vaaz etti\u011fim s\u00f6ze s\u0131ms\u0131k\u0131 ba\u011fl\u0131 kald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z takdirde kurtulu\u015fa erdi\u011finiz m\u00fcjdeyi hat\u0131rlatmak istiyorum.\u201d<br>(1 Korintliler 15:1-2)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSevgili karde\u015flerim\u2026 bir kereye mahsus olmak \u00fczere azizlere emanet edilmi\u015f olan imana sahip \u00e7\u0131k\u0131n.\u201d<br>(Yuda 3 ESV)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cBenden i\u015fitti\u011finiz do\u011fru s\u00f6zlerin \u00f6rne\u011fini, Mesih \u0130sa\u2019da olan iman ve sevgiyle izleyin.\u201d<br>(2 Timoteos 1:13)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c&quot;Bu nedenle, duyduklar\u0131m\u0131za \u00e7ok daha dikkatli kulak vermeliyiz ki, onlardan uzakla\u015fmayal\u0131m.&quot;\u201d<br>(\u0130braniler 2:1)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">R\u00fcyamda, insanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n \u0130ncil&#039;i bu \u015fekilde y\u00f6netti\u011fini ve onu yeniden kurmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 s\u00f6yledim. Ger\u00e7ek bir yeniden yap\u0131lanma, yeni bir dans de\u011fildir. Bu, zincirin son \u00e7irkin kopyas\u0131na de\u011fil, \u0130ncil&#039;in ilk verildi\u011fi haline geri d\u00f6nmektir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kat\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131m seminer, kilise tarihini bu \u015fekilde \u00f6zetliyor. Yeni Ahit kilisesini \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fct olarak al\u0131yor. Ard\u0131ndan, havarilerden sonra ibadet, \u00f6\u011freti ve yap\u0131n\u0131n nas\u0131l de\u011fi\u015fti\u011fini; kilisenin imparatorlu\u011fun y\u00f6netimi alt\u0131na nas\u0131l girdi\u011fini; ve daha sonraki gruplar\u0131n ilk modele nas\u0131l geri d\u00f6nmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 izliyor. Bu \u00f6zette \u0130ncil metni hala bizimle birlikte. De\u011fi\u015fen \u015fey, kilisenin nas\u0131l \u015fekillendi\u011fi. <em>yapt\u0131<\/em> \u0130nan\u00e7. Her nesil bir \u00f6nceki neslin uygulamas\u0131n\u0131 kopyalad\u0131. Kilise tarihine dair bir ara\u015ft\u0131rma bu e\u011filimi g\u00f6sterebilir. Bu yard\u0131mc\u0131 olur. Ancak bu, ilk vaaz edilen \u015feyi savunmakla ayn\u0131 \u015fey de\u011fildir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c&quot;\u0130nsan gelene\u011fine g\u00f6re, felsefe ve bo\u015f aldatmacalarla kimsenin sizi esir almas\u0131na izin vermeyin... Mesih&#039;e g\u00f6re de\u011fil.&quot;\u201d<br>(Koloseliler 2:8)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c\u00d6ne ge\u00e7ip de Mesih\u2019in \u00f6\u011fretisine ba\u011fl\u0131 kalmayan kimse Tanr\u0131\u2019ya sahip de\u011fildir. \u00d6\u011fretiye ba\u011fl\u0131 kalan ise hem Baba\u2019ya hem de O\u011ful\u2019a sahiptir.\u201d<br>(2 Yuhanna 9 ESV)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cBu nedenle nereden d\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fcz\u00fc hat\u0131rlay\u0131n; t\u00f6vbe edin ve ilk yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z i\u015fleri yeniden yap\u0131n.\u201d<br>(Vahiy 2:5)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tarih, aktar\u0131mlar\u0131 isimlendirebilir. Soru \u015fu: \u0130ncili ilk verildi\u011fi haliyle mi, yoksa sonradan de\u011fi\u015ftirilmi\u015f haliyle mi kabul ediyoruz?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">R\u00fcyan\u0131n ikinci k\u0131sm\u0131 \u2014 antrenman odas\u0131<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">R\u00fcyan\u0131n ikinci k\u0131sm\u0131, e\u011fitimdeki bir ekiple ilgili. Oda bir kafes. Cam, \u0131s\u0131r\u0131lmamak i\u00e7in orada. Bir stajyer onu takip ediyor. Bir canavar d\u0131\u015far\u0131 \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor. Yarat\u0131\u011f\u0131n ezilmesi gerekiyor. Ekip ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131z oluyor. B\u00f6l\u00fcm ba\u015fkan\u0131 da ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131z oluyor. O kadar k\u00f6t\u00fcyd\u00fck ki, neredeyse b\u00f6l\u00fcm ba\u015fkan\u0131 gibi oldu\u011fumuzu s\u00f6yleyerek \u015faka yapt\u0131m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Durumlar o kadar k\u00f6t\u00fcyd\u00fc ki, bu y\u00fczden yaratmaya y\u00f6nelik ilk fikirler akl\u0131ma geldi. <a href=\"http:\/\/findgod.help\">http:\/\/findgod.help<\/a>. Bu sayfalar yerel \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalard\u0131r: dans\u0131n nas\u0131l de\u011fi\u015ftirildi\u011fini ve kilisenin bir kez teslim edilen inanc\u0131 nas\u0131l terk etti\u011fini belirtirler.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cKarde\u015flerim, aran\u0131zdan \u00e7ok az\u0131 \u00f6\u011fretmen olsun; \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc biliyorsunuz ki, biz \u00f6\u011fretmenler daha b\u00fcy\u00fck bir titizlikle yarg\u0131lanaca\u011f\u0131z.\u201d<br>(Yakup 3:1 ESV)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cHem kendinize hem de \u00f6\u011fretilerinize dikkat edin. Bunda \u0131srarc\u0131 olun, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc b\u00f6ylece hem kendinizi hem de dinleyicilerinizi kurtaracaks\u0131n\u0131z.\u201d<br>(1 Timoteos 4:16)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Biz \u0130ngiltere&#039;deyiz. \u00c7a\u011fr\u0131 Avrupa taraf\u0131ndan geldi: e-postay\u0131 d\u00fczeltmemize yard\u0131m edin. Burada e-posta ileti\u015fim anlam\u0131na geliyor. K\u0131tadan hatt\u0131n onar\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131 istiyorlard\u0131. Telefonu ben a\u00e7t\u0131m. Yerel sorunlar\u0131m\u0131zla ilgilenmemiz gerekti\u011fini s\u00f6yledim. R\u00fcya bana o c\u00fcmleyi s\u00f6ylemedi, ben s\u00f6yledim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Daha sonra Avrupa&#039;ya gitmeyi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcm. \u00c7a\u011fr\u0131 zaten gelmi\u015fti. \u0130lk tercihim yerel i\u015fti. Avrupa&#039;ya y\u00f6nelme fikri daha sonra geldi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cEy riyak\u00e2r, \u00f6nce kendi g\u00f6z\u00fcndeki k\u00fct\u00fc\u011f\u00fc \u00e7\u0131kar, sonra karde\u015finin g\u00f6z\u00fcndeki \u00e7\u00f6p\u00fc \u00e7\u0131karmak i\u00e7in a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7a g\u00f6rebilirsin.\u201d<br>(Matta 7:5 ESV)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Sonras\u0131nda ne yapt\u0131m?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Seminere gittim. &quot;Ruh&quot; durumun \u00e7ok k\u00f6t\u00fc oldu\u011funu ima etti\u011finden, bu konuda \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar yapmaya ba\u015flamam gerekiyordu. <a href=\"https:\/\/findgod.help\">Tanr\u0131y\u0131 bul.yard\u0131m<\/a> Ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7ta \u00f6\u011fretilenleri geri getirmek i\u00e7in. Tanr\u0131 ormana bakar, biz ise a\u011fa\u00e7lara bakar\u0131z. Yani <a href=\"https:\/\/findgod.help\">Tanr\u0131y\u0131 bul.yard\u0131m<\/a> Her kilisenin Kutsal Kitab\u0131 \u00f6\u011frenmesi ve anlamas\u0131 gerekiyor. Daha sonra misyonerlik \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 hakk\u0131nda da d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmeye ba\u015flad\u0131m ve Avrupa&#039;ya gitmeyi ara\u015ft\u0131r\u0131yorum. Bu muhtemelen son de\u011fil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cHer \u015feyi test edin; iyi olan\u0131 s\u0131k\u0131ca koruyun.\u201d<br>(1 Selanikliler 5:21)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>24 May 2024 Before this dream I was wondering whether to go to a seminar about church history. 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